“I really don’t know her. But if you look at the transcripts, the president of Ukraine was not a fan of hers, either. I mean, he did not exactly say glowing things. I’m sure she’s a very fine woman. I just don’t know much about her.”
— President Trump, in remarks to reporters about former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch, Nov. 4, 2019
“Even if you listen to the very good conversation that I had — a very, very good, no-pressure, congenial conversation with the new president of Ukraine — he had some things that were not flattering to say about her. And that came out of the blue.”
— Trump, in a Fox News interview, Oct. 12, 2019
Trump keeps telling people to “read the transcript” of his phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, insisting that the July 25 conversation did not include any impeachable conduct.
Trump also keeps saying that Zelensky voiced dissatisfaction with Marie Yovanovitch, a career U.S. diplomat who until recently was the American ambassador in Kyiv, on that phone call.
We read the transcript. Trump criticized Yovanovitch first, and Zelensky, seemingly under pressure, said he agreed.
View the complete November 6 article by Salvador Rizzo on The Washington Post website here.